John Piper (John Pieper Facebook page)John Piper is one of the most respected Christian leaders in America, and I personally hold him in high esteem. And the article has fostered a needed conversation among Christians about voting in this election. In an article, he argued that pride in a presidential candidate is as dangerous and likely to cause death as having a president with a liberal attitude to abortion laws. 3. A number of years ago, he invited me to speak in Minneapolis for one … Continue Reading "John Piper, Me, and the Cool Shame Election" If voting for a man who often lies and exaggerates can stop the rise of an anti-God socialism, can that vote be justified? Theologian, author, and seminary professor Wayne Grudem has written a lengthy response to John Piper’s commentary on the 2020 election. That said, I believe both are egregiously wrong in this instance. University said Piper's appearance with J. D. Greear was “unfortunate timing,” falling the same week as his viral article decrying both presidential candidates. Shortly after John Piper’s election post went viral, Liberty University removed the pastor’s convocation, citing “a controversy we did not seek out or desire.” Piper’s post implored Christians to consider the candidate’s character in addition to the issues. In an episode of the podcast “Ask Pastor John” posted before Independence Day, a listener named Matt asked Piper about how patriotism fit in the Christian life. Pied Piper. “I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person,” Piper … For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. John Piper has published a piece entitled “Policies, Persons And Paths to Ruin: Pondering the Implications of the 2020 Election.” 1 It is an attempt at a thoughtful summary of some of the things a Christian should keep in mind as election day approaches. John Piper Endorses Doug Wilson. Bible translation is about more than just technical accuracy. (Photo: Passion/Kendra Harrell) There's an "eternally significant" question Donald Trump and Joe Biden should ask themselves as votes continue to be counted, says John Piper, but it's not whether they've won this election. Piper states that he will vote for neither candidate, and lays out a solid argument for his stance. In light of Dr. Piper’s views about abortion, it appears he will not vote for Joe Biden because Biden is in favor of abortion. 1. He stated then that he believed that Donald Trump was morally unqualified to … Whipping out the ultimate tool in the pastor’s complexifying toolbox, he employs biblical Greek to add authority to his case against Trump and against voting at all. I will therefore speak out when he acts wrongly and will model something different in my own life.”. Like all afflictions, they are, if we can so take them, our share in the passion of Christ. How, then, can Christians vote for someone who embodies the former sins (such as “unrepentant boastfulness”) in the name of fighting against the latter sins (such as abortion)? Yet I differ with his suggestion that Christians might do best by sitting out the presidential election, since a vote for either Trump or Biden cannot be justified. The school’s most recent convocation was an election-themed discussion with Republican Senator Ted Cruz and evangelist Tim Lee, a Liberty trustee and an outspoken advocate for Trump. By Linda Moldovan [Photo cred, Andrew Neel] John Piper recently penned a piece on the upcoming presidential election that has incited a strong reaction from Christians of every stripe. Christian preacher and author John Piper is one of the few conservative Christian figures who doesn’t have glowing reviews of Donald Trump.. Pastor John Piper and the 2020 elections: A respectful response. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. Two videos of a discussion with Piper and Southern Baptist Convention president J. D. Greear were removed from Liberty’s social media and its convocation page at the direction of interim president Jerry Prevo. Destruction of more kinds than we can imagine.”. Yet I differ with his suggestion that Christians might do best by sitting out the presidential election, since a vote for either Trump or Biden cannot be justified.. Before sharing my differences, though, I want to share my points of affirmation. John Piper (John Pieper Facebook page)John Piper is one of the most respected Christian leaders in America, and I personally hold him in high esteem. Pied Piper. John Piper suggested in a new piece for his site, Desiring God, that he may not be voting for Donald Trump or Joe Biden in the presidential election. Timothy Keller is not an evangelical anomaly. Greear said in a statement to CT that he was “disappointed” in the decision to remove the video. Politics is not the central responsibility of Christians, but it is one aspect of the central responsibility, which is seeking first the kingdom of God in all things. First 2 were part of the Strange Fire Conference, the third one was an interview with Phil Johnson and the last 4 were blog posts written by MacArthur himself in response to claims made by John Piper. The Turning Point USA founder recently criticized Piper while speaking at a Tennessee church, saying the pastor has “no idea what he is talking about politically” and “he should stay out of this space, because he is a fool when it comes to this stuff.”, “So to Kirk, the preacher must stay out of politics, but the politician and his pundit can wade neck-deep into the church,” wrote Matthew Boedy, professor of rhetoric at the University of North Georgia. The now-pulled convocation session was not politically themed. In his post, Piper twice wrote his stance was not prescriptive for all Christians (“my way need not be yours”), though it was the perspective that swayed him the most this election. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Posted on Fri Oct 12, 2012 by dee October 13, 2012. Theologian John Piper gives a sermon at Passion 2020 at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia on Jan. 1, 2020. If John Piper was present in King David’s time and King David’s rule was dependent upon an election, Pastor Piper would be caught sleeping and refusing to vote. The modern political pietism John Piper exemplifies shirks Christian responsibility in the present world, including in politics. But to say that we cannot vote for him when the stakes are so high is, in my view, to miss the larger point. John Piper on Justification. So it was, in the words of Liberty University spokesman Scott Lamb, “an unfortunate coincidence in timing” that Piper’s contentious reflection on the 2020 election came out a day after he spoke at the Christian college’s weekly convocation. A daily newsletter featuring the most important and significant events on each day in Christian History. He’s mentioned Trump just a few times in the past couple years, mostly to pray for him in accordance to Scripture. Second, I deeply share his concern that many American pastors have failed to develop “real, radical Christians,” Christians who will be willing to die for Jesus. His latest book is Evangelicals at the Crossroads: Will We Pass the Trump Test? 5. John Piper (John Pieper Facebook page) John Piper … Contents Introduction Are All Sins Equal? Finally, when it comes to listing the sins of Trump, Pastor Piper may have gone a little too far. Moreover, Keller is battling pancreatic cancer and deserves our prayers and well wishes. John Piper Invites Rick Warren to speak at 2010 Desiring God Conference Well-known pastor John Piper made waves by declaring neither presidential candidate is someone he can vote for – Trump because of his character, Biden because of his party’s policies. Piper said he is baffled and bewildered over the fact that some Christians think they are “saving human lives and freedoms” by downplaying the destructive effects of a “self-absorbed, self-exalting” leader. While it would be ideal for our presidents to be shining examples of morality and character, very few in our history would live up to that ideal. Here’s a list of 7 times Pastor MacArthur and Phil Johnson of GTY.ORG has rebuked John Piper for his errors. Piper’s current views are consistent with his views during the last election. In … He is the author of 25 books and hosts the nationally syndicated, daily talk radio show, the Line of Fire. John Piper released a short video today with some wise observations about the presidential election. Popular reformed theologian John Piper shared his thoughts on the upcoming election on his website Desiring God. John Piper is soothing the conscience of people who will vote for evil policies that are far deadlier than any character concerns of Donald Trump. His Twitter feed in recent months is almost entirely Bible quotes and Bible commentary. And does he get credit for keeping his promises and commitments in ways that few presidents in our lifetime have done? “As followers of Jesus, mobilizing ourselves for the Great Commission is the most important thing for us to do, and our commitment to Jesus and his mission is something we can all be unified around.”. Like all afflictions, they are, if we can so take them, our share in the passion of Christ. No doubt both are under a great deal of pressure to declare decisively on this election. Tim Keller and John Piper have had long, fruitful ministries. “Now that is some theology. Piper tweeted the release of the article with the commentary, “This article is probably as close as you will get to an answer on how I will vote in the upcoming presidential election.” After reading the article, one cannot walk away with any other conclusion than John Piper will … 6. 1:00PM EST 11/1/2020 Michael Brown. We can cast a ballot in his name on November 3 while shouting from the rooftops that our hope is in the Lord, not in a man or a party. Some people feel guilty about their anxieties and regard them as a defect of faith but they are afflictions, not sins. Yet I differ with his suggestion that Christians might do best by sitting out the presidential election, since a vote for either Trump or Biden cannot be justified. “This article is probably as close as you will get to an answer on how I will vote in the upcoming presidential election,” Piper writes in an article titled Policies, Persons, and Paths to Ruin: Pondering the implications of the 2020 election. One of my evangelical colleagues wrote to me last week, saying, “The gospel witness has been destroyed, especially among the younger generations. Yet I differ with his suggestion that Christians might do best by sitting out the presidential election, since a vote for either Trump or Biden cannot be justified. Yet I differ with his suggestion that Christians might do best by sitting out the presidential election, since a vote for either Trump or Biden cannot be justified. Piper states that he will vote for neither candidate, and lays out a solid argument for his stance. Before sharing my differences, though, I want to share my points of affirmation. In a recent blog post, popular pastor John Piper asserts Republicans aren’t morally rigid enough. Whipping out the ultimate tool in the pastor’s complexifying toolbox, he employs biblical Greek to add authority to his case against Trump and against voting at all. Author and pastor John Piper published a blog on October 22 that has gained lots of attention, responses, and retorts. Readers of my book Evangelicals at the Crossroads: Will We Pass the Trump Test? John Piper suggested in a new piece for his site, Desiring God, that he may not be voting for Donald Trump or Joe Biden in the presidential election. Here is a taste: In fact, I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person. For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. I would recommend that Pastor Piper do a little more biblical research and seek the true mind of God and His will. To begin with, the political system itself is earthly and flawed, with all candidates being far from perfect. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Jerry Falwell Jr. Takes Leave of Absence from Liberty, After Binging on the Internet in 2020, We Need a Major Knowledge-Diet Overhaul. Popular reformed theologian John Piper shared his thoughts on the upcoming election on his website Desiring God. I wish John Piper would have come out earlier with this post. The Influences of Sin The Cool Shame Election Introduction: I will begin by saying that I owe a great deal to John Piper, and one of the central things I owe to him is respect. If we are concerned for the decay of our culture, why would we hand the country over to the crowd outside of Lot’s house? Contents Introduction Are All Sins Equal? The university, which touts its convocation as the largest weekly gathering of Christian students, has hosted politicians from both parties, including Bernie Sanders during his primary run and former President Jimmy Carter, who spoke at commencement in 2018. While Piper studiously avoids mentioning either candidate by name, it doesn’t take … John Piper is one of the most respected Christian leaders in America, and I personally hold him in high esteem. Yet I differ with his suggestion that Christians might do best by sitting out the presidential election, since a vote for either Trump or Biden cannot be justified. But it fails to realize that many of the younger generations were already turned off by our affirmation of biblical values, which includes our rejection of the “pro-choice” position and our opposition to LGBTQ activism. Shortly after John Piper’s election post went viral, Liberty University removed the pastor’s convocation, citing “a controversy we did not seek out or desire.” Piper’s post implored Christians to consider the candidate’s character in addition to the issues. John Piper Weighs In on Trump. John Piper is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. CP VOICES do not necessarily reflect the views of The Christian Post. John Piper on Christians in the 2020 Election. Next, it is one thing to elect a boastful, divisive leader. Or give free reign to foreign, tyrannical regimes. Close. But I wonder if future generations would understand if we explained the loss of our freedoms and the slaughter of millions of more babies by saying, “Yes, one party espoused these terrible policies. Posted Oct 23, 2020 by Staff. Do we therefore compromise our views on these issues so as to avoid offense? Topic: Politics. (Photo: Passion/Kendra Harrell) There's an "eternally significant" question Donald Trump and Joe Biden should ask themselves as votes continue to be counted, says John Piper, but it's not whether they've won this election. Author and theologian John Piper has waded into the debate over who Christians should be casting their vote for on 3 November. One Trump supporter called out “Calvinist heresy!” while several commenters decried “wokeness” and a “social justice agenda.”. Before sharing my differences, though, I want to share my points of affirmation. The Pied Piper Plays Again. Playlist: Line of Fire TV. Liberty’s former president Jerry Falwell Jr. was famously friends with Trump, who visited the school as a candidate in 2016 and returned to offer its commencement address as president the following year. @JohnPiper. Tweet. As I read it, his argument is that the ungodly traits in a president’s character are more deadly for a nation than any ungodly policies because they breed ungodly traits in the citizenry. That, without question, demeans our witness. Put another way, if voting for a boastful man can potentially save millions of babies’ lives, can that vote be justified? The surprising thing is that this in effect puts him at odds with his generation and his theological constituency. In light of Dr. Piper’s tweet after publishing his article, the upshot of his article appears to be that he will not vote for Trump or Biden in the 2020 election. While Piper studiously avoids mentioning either candidate by name, it doesn’t take a scholar to piece together what he’s talking about. To the contrary, hasn’t he expressed regret about some of his past actions? In a recent blog post, popular pastor John Piper asserts Republicans aren’t morally rigid enough. On the other hand, if those with a different agenda are empowered, their policies will affect us by the millions. Once again, I wholeheartedly agree with Piper’s emphasis on the gospel first (rather than “America first”). Conservative preacher and writer John Piper laid into American Christians recently for supporting Donald Trump for president. It aired Friday and is still available online. I would recommend that Pastor Piper do a little more biblical research and seek the true mind of God and His will. John Piper Weighs In on Trump. John Piper Endorses Doug Wilson. We can proclaim that JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR and Trump is just our president (with giant fonts for the former and small fonts for the latter). Piper tweeted the release of the article with the commentary, “This article is probably as close as you will get to an answer on how I will vote in the upcoming presidential election.” After reading the article, one cannot walk away with any other conclusion than John Piper will … Some people feel guilty about their anxieties and regard them as a defect of faith but they are afflictions, not sins. But a vote for Biden and the Democrats is a vote to empower a party that wants to impose an overtly godless agenda. Connect with him on Facebook, Twitter, or YouTube. Close. The essence of what he is saying, as I understand it, is that character matters more than anything else in leadership. John Piper answers, Greg Laurie: Let’s let go of anger in 2021, Churches, you become what you celebrate. 5. Please click here to learn how. This year marks the 20th anniversary of Piper’s famous sermon “Don’t Waste Your Life” (also known as the seashells message). Lamb said the feedback over Piper was “a controversy we did not seek out or desire” and came from “both those who would praise us for having him [and] those who would critique us from having him.” He said that it is possible the clips will be restored once the heat of the election season has died down. I respect and admire author and pastor John Piper, but his recent column “pondering the implications of the 2020 election” has not persuaded me against voting for Donald Trump next week. But his latest editorial for the website Desiring God explains how his voting process this year hasn’t changed. “Obviously, as Christians we […] I thank God for his remarkable worldwide ministry, his evident deep love for God, his faithfulness to every word of Scripture, and the way his life of self-sacrifice continues to provide a challenge to me personally. The final straw was the support of Donald Trump by these groups. Do you want award-winning journalism with a, Boko Haram suicide bomber kills 15 in Cameroon, Police ban Indian Christian families from worship, accuse them of false conversion, This week in Christian history: Criswell dies, Presbyterian Church founds life insurance company, anti-Nazi pastor born, How should Christians question their salvation? will know that I have expressed many similar views as well. Full report from outside investigation to be released in January. If John Piper was present in King David’s time and King David’s rule was dependent upon an election, Pastor Piper would be caught sleeping and refusing to vote. Theologian John Piper gives a sermon at Passion 2020 at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia on Jan. 1, 2020. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. Popular Reformed theologian John Piper warned Christians about being too patriotic and placing their loyalty to the “fatherland” over their loyalty to Jesus Christ. The two-part discussion aired October 21 and 23. | Passion/Garrett Lobaugh John Piper has issued a blistering condemnation of President Donald Trump, warning Christian voters that the president's “deadly behavior” will lead the U.S. to “destruction of more kinds than we can imagine.” Piper concludes with truisms that Christians will not dispute. “This article is probably as close as you will get to an answer on how I will vote in the upcoming presidential election,” Piper writes in an article titled Policies, Persons, and Paths to Ruin: Pondering the implications of the 2020 election. If voting for a man with a sexually immoral past can give support to persecuted minorities in China, can that vote be justified? Prevo cited negative feedback and the controversy surrounding Piper’s article, Lamb said. At times like this, my counsel is simple: Be idealistic in terms of living out your own faith as a witness for the Lord. A group called Christians Against Trumpism ran an ad in the Washington Post thanking Piper among other Christian voices who stood up against the president. That being said, I differ with Pastor Piper’s assessment of the situation and with his comparison of the personal failings of Trump with the policies of the Democratic party. Timothy Keller is not an evangelical anomaly. Seventh, I agree with him that, whatever path we take, it must enhance, not detract, from our witness for Jesus. John Piper. Dr. I would recommend that Pastor Piper do a little more biblical research and seek the true mind of God and His will. John Piper has published a piece entitled “Policies, Persons And Paths to Ruin: Pondering the Implications of the 2020 Election.” 1 It is an attempt at a thoughtful summary of some of the things a Christian should keep in mind as election day approaches. John Piper has been raising eyebrows this week. Theologian, author, and seminary professor Wayne Grudem has written a lengthy response to John Piper’s commentary on the 2020 election. Christian preacher and author John Piper is one of the few conservative Christian figures who doesn’t have glowing reviews of Donald Trump. But we couldn’t vote for the man whose party opposed them because he was too boastful and divisive.”. The non-believing world is appalled by the hypocrisy. A Respectful Response to Pastor John Piper and the 2020 Election. He teamed up with Greear, whose new book asks What Are You Going to Do With Your Life?, to challenge a new generation with a message about living faithful and missional lives. 1. Though he had called the president “morally unfit” in 2017, Piper isn’t in the habit of speaking out about politics or political candidates. 4. John Piper’s Liberty Convocation Pulled After Election Post University said Piper's appearance with J. D. Greear was “unfortunate timing,” falling the … John Piper (John Pieper Facebook page) John Piper … (SEE UPDATE BELOW).If I read him correctly, it sounds like he will not vote for Trump or Biden. An important and overlooked part of John Piper’s election post October 27, 2020 October 27, 2020 / johnfea In the midst of the all the political back and forth , Piper’s message to pastors may be the most important part of his anti-Trump post . Well-known pastor John Piper made waves by declaring neither presidential candidate is someone he can vote for – Trump because of his character, Biden because of his party’s policies. 1:00PM EST 11/1/2020 Michael Brown. I thank God for his remarkable worldwide ministry, his evident deep love for God, his faithfulness to every word of Scripture, and the way his life of self-sacrifice continues to provide a challenge to me personally. John Piper on Christians in the 2020 Election. Over on John Piper’s Desiring God site, the famous pastor and author has put together a lengthy post on his thoughts on an upcoming election you may have heard about. John Piper on Justification. He writes, “I remain baffled that so many Christians consider the sins of unrepentant sexual immorality (porneia), unrepentant boastfulness (alazoneia), unrepentant vulgarity (aischrologia), unrepentant factiousness (dichostasiai), and the like, to be only toxic for our nation, while policies that endorse baby-killing, sex-switching, freedom-limiting, and socialistic overreach are viewed as deadly.”. John Piper on Final Justification by Works. First 2 were part of the Strange Fire Conference, the third one was an interview with Phil Johnson and the last 4 were blog posts written by MacArthur himself in response to claims made by John Piper. Third, I agree with Pastor Piper that our obsession with the elections and the wellbeing of America undermines the reality that we are citizens of a higher kingdom and that we are only passing through this world. I wish John Piper would have come out earlier with this post. Pondering the Implications of the 2020 Election. Here is a taste: In fact, I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person. Over on John Piper’s Desiring God site, the famous pastor and author has put together a lengthy post on his thoughts on an upcoming election you may have heard about. Piper said he is baffled and bewildered over the fact that some Christians think they are “saving human lives and freedoms” by downplaying the destructive effects of a “self-absorbed, self-exalting” leader. Looking For Joy Amid Chaos? If John Piper was present in King David’s time and King David’s rule was dependent upon an election, Pastor Piper would be caught sleeping and refusing to vote. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. John Piper Invites Rick Warren to speak at 2010 Desiring God Conference Opinions expressed are solely those of the author(s). “The sole purpose of our conversation was to challenge Liberty students to consider how God wanted to use their lives in the Great Commission,” he said. 2. The only folks who don’t see it are most of the Evangelical world.”. John Stephen Piper (born January 11, 1946) is a theologian and pastor who is the founder and senior teacher of desiringGod.org, and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 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News and Current Events :: Pastor John Piper on Presidential Election Re: , on: 2020/10/24 18:19 BeginQuote: It is the sins of the preachers who failed to teach the people the way of life. 6. When it comes to Trump, we can vote for his policies while saying, “I don’t like many of the things he does and feel his example is often very destructive. In an article, he argued that pride in a presidential candidate is as dangerous and likely to cause death as having a president with a liberal attitude to abortion laws. “I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person,” Piper … The Reformed Christian leader wrote about the “sins that destroy people” through the “deadly influences of a leader,” arguing faithful Christian voters shouldn’t only be concerned about abortion, but should also stand against “the culture-infecting spread of the gangrene of sinful self-exaltation, and boasting, and strife-stirring.”. John Piper, a popular author and speaker, made his disapproval of the president clear in a blog post on his website on Thursday. Piper states that only a naive person would think a man who displays character traits that lead to death could also be pro-life. John Piper: On Election, Sin and the Painful Lives of Muscular Women. His refusal to vote for either major party candidate puts him in the minority among evangelicals. As Piper wrote, “When a leader models self-absorbed, self-exalting boastfulness, he models the most deadly behavior in the world. It is another thing to empower a party that will sanction the killing of the unborn. A number of years ago, he invited me to speak in Minneapolis for one … Continue Reading "John Piper, Me, and the Cool Shame Election" Join over 250,000 others to get the top stories curated daily, plus special offers! News and Current Events :: Pastor John Piper on Presidential Election Re: , on: 2020/10/24 18:19 BeginQuote: It is the sins of the preachers who failed to teach the people the way of life. My response, again, is simple: Trump is one man, and as destructive as his words and conduct can be – just look at the warnings in Proverbs about foolish kings – we can vote for him by the millions while at the same time modeling godlier conduct. 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